education, jim. here's sort of my frustration when it comes to the issue of education. we all agree. everybody agrees. left, right, liberal, conservative, male, female, whatever, old, young, that the public school education system is broken, it needs fixing, and yet, nobody can agree on a solution, so talk -- walk us through some of the solutions that you thought, well, that's sort of where this is heading. >> well, what's interesting is about this whole issue of solutions is everybody at the beginning of the conversation really does care about children first. they do think that kids are the most important thing. they're looking at it, though, through their lens, as each of them are specialists. parents through their lens, teachers through their lens. but if you extend that school day, more teaching time in a classroom and you put the very best teachers in front of those students and you create a curriculum that's based on testing and standards that you can change student performance with the same amount of money as we're spending right now.